Session Start: Sat Mar 28 22:36:00 2009 Session Ident: nenolod [03/28/2009 22:36:00 -5] Session Ident: nenolod (nenolod@Anope-e1267f31.dereferenced.org) [03/28/2009 22:36:00 -5] wrong move 01[03/28/2009 22:36:28 -5] <04CyberBotX> I don't start shit with you, but you start it with me. That's not very mature. [03/28/2009 22:38:47 -5] by the way, kickbanning me demonstrates your inferiority complex [03/28/2009 22:39:09 -5] as does constantly trying to squelch anyone talking about anything you can't get your head around [03/28/2009 22:39:19 -5] i have noticed this pattern with you. it's a problem. [03/28/2009 22:39:53 -5] if you want anope to be successful, such an attitude will drive intelligent users away from your product [03/28/2009 22:40:01 -5] this same attitude is already causing this with inspircd 01[03/28/2009 22:40:48 -5] <04CyberBotX> Yet I'm still sick of your elitist crap. You don't try to help any of these projects when you talk about them the way you do, so why are you telling me what to do in regards to them? [03/28/2009 22:41:10 -5] see, there you go with the attitude. [03/28/2009 22:41:36 -5] i am helping you, but i am quite blunt in the way that i do it. [03/28/2009 22:41:56 -5] you may see minimal immediate gains by behaving this way, but you will drive away potential contributors who are far more capable than you. 01[03/28/2009 22:42:18 -5] <04CyberBotX> Frankly, I don't think telling me that I write worthless code is helping me, nor is telling me how I should direct myself in #anope helping me. [03/28/2009 22:42:43 -5] i'm telling you that you yourself see your own code as worthless, which is why you behave in this way. [03/28/2009 22:42:55 -5] if you choose to not accept that point, that is your decision. 01[03/28/2009 22:43:06 -5] <04CyberBotX> Except I don't think my code is worthless. That's your opinion, and a misguided one I believe. [03/28/2009 22:43:07 -5] however, your behaviour demonstrates it thoroughly. [03/28/2009 22:43:14 -5] i'm talking deep down inside 01[03/28/2009 22:43:25 -5] <04CyberBotX> I really don't think you are. [03/28/2009 22:43:59 -5] you are completely oblivious then. you have a tendency to squelch people who discuss things you do not understand, simply because you feel they are disruptive (although the channel was 100% idle at the time). [03/28/2009 22:44:25 -5] this combined with other suppressive behavioural traits indicates a lack of confidence in your own growth as a software developer/engineer. 01[03/28/2009 22:44:41 -5] <04CyberBotX> No, you fail to realize that what I'm trying to do is keep the channel closer to Anope support as possible. It's not MEANT to be a general chat channel. [03/28/2009 22:44:58 -5] that format does not suit well to the anope community [03/28/2009 22:45:22 -5] anope has always been a very informal, friendly "just some guys trying to write some services to help people out" group [03/28/2009 22:45:52 -5] you are trying to transform it into something more... politically-correct, more "corporate" [03/28/2009 22:46:01 -5] except, without actually being corporate [03/28/2009 22:46:24 -5] look at the other members of the anope team [03/28/2009 22:46:38 -5] they are /b/tards / trolls / whatever like amanda and mooncup [03/28/2009 22:46:53 -5] that's the culture that has always driven anope [03/28/2009 22:46:58 -5] they're doing it for the fun of doing it [03/28/2009 22:47:06 -5] they're not trying to be "professional" about it [03/28/2009 22:47:16 -5] i think you understand that [03/28/2009 22:47:21 -5] and choose to ignore it [03/28/2009 22:47:27 -5] due to the reasoning i described above [03/28/2009 22:48:25 -5] i also think you have put me on /ignore because you refuse to hear this point [03/28/2009 22:48:33 -5] that is fine. it just demonstrates your motivation. [03/28/2009 22:49:17 -5] you're pasting shit around. excellent move. [03/28/2009 22:50:34 -5] i challenge you to reply to this monologue instead of paste things around. but i doubt you have the balls to do so. [03/28/2009 22:50:42 -5] because you know i am right. 01[03/28/2009 22:51:16 -5] <04CyberBotX> Frankly, if I did things your way, I doubt anything would ever get done, and Anope would be where it was before 1.8 and 1.9 got released. [03/28/2009 22:51:54 -5] frankly, if you are such a great coder, why do you care what they say in a damned IRC channel? [03/28/2009 22:52:07 -5] if your goal is to fix anope, you should be working on code, not on the culture. 01[03/28/2009 22:52:08 -5] <04CyberBotX> I'd have to ask the same of you. [03/28/2009 22:52:18 -5] i have an issue with -you-, not with -them-. [03/28/2009 22:52:24 -5] and we are discussing that issue [03/28/2009 22:52:51 -5] if you act in an abusive way, you should expect to be called on it. [03/28/2009 22:53:20 -5] i should mention that i have a few thousand IP addresses, so it's not like evading your ban would be an issue. [03/28/2009 22:53:35 -5] i'm not pursuing that because i feel that it will not resolve this issue [03/28/2009 22:54:50 -5] inspircd-style professionalism behaviour is not what is needed to spark a release [03/28/2009 22:54:59 -5] motivating the /team/ is what is required [03/28/2009 22:55:06 -5] and being an /asshole/ will not do that for you [03/28/2009 22:55:15 -5] i have an interest in anope's success [03/28/2009 22:55:24 -5] you have an interest in anope's success [03/28/2009 22:56:55 -5] again, the lack of responses. [03/28/2009 22:57:16 -5] you have no interest in discussing anything, that is clear. you just want to act like a man since you got bitchslapped. 01[03/28/2009 22:58:14 -5] <04CyberBotX> I'm actually thinking I'm not going to waste my time with you anymore. [03/28/2009 22:58:23 -5] then you should remove my ban [03/28/2009 22:59:44 -5] because 'we' is not 'we', it's 'you'. [03/28/2009 22:59:53 -5] other members of the anope team enjoy my company. [03/28/2009 23:00:06 -5] and there is no 'you' in 'team'. Session Close: Sat Mar 28 23:09:53 2009